Polaris Andromeda Aries Auriga Cassiopeia Cepheus Cetus Cygnus Draco Eridanus Gemini Lepus Lyra Orion Pegasus Perseus Taurus Ursa Major Ursa Minor N E S W
The whole sky from Palos Preserves at about 10 pm local time in mid-November (11 pm on daylight saving time). Overhead is the center, north is at the top and east at the left, as seen lying on your back. The pale band is the Milky Way; the dashed line is the celestial equator. Select a constellation name for its page.

Dark sky place · Illinois

Palos Preserves Forest Preserve (Urban Night Sky Place)

Palos Preserves Forest Preserve (Urban Night Sky Place) is a forest preserve (urban night sky place) in Illinois. Its sky rates Bortle Class 7, suburban and urban transition, with a zenith sky brightness of 18.61 mag/arcsec². DarkSky International lists it as an Urban Night Sky Place (certified 2021).

Palos Preserves in brief

Bortle class
7
Sky brightness
18.61 mag/arcsec²
Naked-eye limit
magnitude 4.6-5.0
Latitude
41.7°N
Elevation
190 m (620 ft)
DarkSky
Urban Night Sky Place
Managed by
Forest Preserves of Cook County
Nearest lodging
Orland Park, IL

Official site

How dark the sky is at Palos Preserves: Bortle Class 7, suburban and urban transition

The zenith sky here reads 18.61 magnitudes per square arcsecond. That is about 22.7 times the brightness of a pristine natural sky (22.0), the extra coming from artificial light scattered in the air.

Milky Way

The Milky Way is invisible

Zodiacal light

Zodiacal light is not visible

Faintest naked-eye stars

Magnitude 4.6 to 5.0 overhead

Naked eye

The whole sky has a gray or orange cast

At the eyepiece

Planets, the Moon and double stars

1 mag 8.0 21.99+ 2 mag 7.5 21.89+ 3 mag 7.0 21.69+ 4 mag 6.5 20.49+ 5 mag 6.0 19.50+ 6 mag 5.5 18.94+ 7 mag 5.0 18.38+ 8 mag 4.5 18.00+ 9 mag 4.0
The Bortle scale. Each panel shows the class number, the faintest star the naked eye reaches at the zenith, and the darkest-edge sky brightness reading of that class in mag/arcsec².

Sky brightness and class come from the World Atlas of Artificial Night Sky Brightness (Falchi et al. 2016, CC BY-NC 4.0), with natural skyglow added. On the night, haze, smoke, humidity and the Moon set the real limit.

What's up from Palos Preserves by season

At latitude 41.7°N, the north celestial pole stands 42° above the horizon, close to Polaris. Every star north of declination -48° rises at some time of year. The Milky Way core in Sagittarius climbs to 19° above the southern horizon. These are the constellations well placed, 35° or more above the horizon, at about 10 pm in the middle of each season, brightest first.

January evenings (winter): Auriga, Orion, and Canis Minor

  • AurigaOverhead, brightest star Capella
  • OrionHigh in the south, brightest star Rigel
  • Canis MinorIn the southeast, brightest star Procyon
  • TaurusHigh in the southwest, brightest star Aldebaran
  • GeminiHigh in the southeast, brightest star Pollux
  • Ursa MajorIn the northeast, brightest star Alioth
  • PerseusHigh in the west, brightest star Mirfak
  • AriesIn the west, brightest star Hamal

Also well placed: Cassiopeia, Triangulum, Lynx, Cancer, Monoceros, Leo Minor, Camelopardalis.

April evenings (spring): Bootes, Virgo, and Leo

  • BootesHigh in the east, brightest star Arcturus
  • VirgoIn the southeast, brightest star Spica
  • LeoHigh in the southwest, brightest star Regulus
  • Ursa MajorOverhead, brightest star Alioth
  • Ursa MinorIn the north, brightest star Polaris
  • Corona BorealisIn the east, brightest star Alphecca
  • Canes VenaticiOverhead, brightest star Cor Caroli
  • LynxIn the northwest, brightest star Alpha Lyncis

Also well placed: Cancer, Leo Minor, Camelopardalis, Coma Berenices, Sextans.

July evenings (summer): Bootes, Lyra, and Aquila

  • BootesHigh in the west, brightest star Arcturus
  • LyraOverhead, brightest star Vega
  • AquilaIn the southeast, brightest star Altair
  • CygnusHigh in the east, brightest star Deneb
  • Ursa MinorHigh in the north, brightest star Polaris
  • OphiuchusIn the south, brightest star Rasalhague
  • Corona BorealisHigh in the west, brightest star Alphecca
  • DracoHigh in the north, brightest star Eltanin

Also well placed: Cepheus, Hercules, Canes Venatici, Sagitta, Delphinus, Lacerta, Scutum, Vulpecula.

October evenings (fall): Lyra, Cygnus, and Perseus

  • LyraIn the west, brightest star Vega
  • CygnusHigh in the west, brightest star Deneb
  • PerseusIn the northeast, brightest star Mirfak
  • AriesIn the east, brightest star Hamal
  • AndromedaOverhead, brightest star Alpheratz
  • DracoIn the northwest, brightest star Eltanin
  • CassiopeiaHigh in the northeast, brightest star Schedar
  • PegasusHigh in the southwest, brightest star Enif

Also well placed: Cepheus, Aquarius, Triangulum, Sagitta, Pisces, Delphinus, Lacerta, Equuleus, Camelopardalis, Vulpecula.

Showpieces from Palos Preserves through the year

SightConstellationJanuaryAprilJulyOctober
Andromeda Galaxy (M31)AndromedaIn the northwest--Overhead
Orion Nebula (M42)OrionIn the south---
Pleiades (M45)TaurusHigh in the southwest--In the east
Double ClusterPerseusHigh in the northwest--High in the northeast
Hercules Cluster (M13)Hercules-In the eastOverhead-
Whirlpool Galaxy (M51)Canes Venatici-High in the northeastIn the northwest-
Ring Nebula (M57)Lyra--OverheadIn the west

At about 10 pm on the 15th of each month; a dash means the sight is below 25° then.

Never set from Palos Preserves

Only skim the southern horizon from Palos Preserves

Never rise from Palos Preserves

Where to set up at Palos Preserves

The coordinates on this page point to Little Red Schoolhouse Nature Center, 9800 Willow Springs Rd, at 190 m (620 ft): 41.709°N, 87.877°W.

Map data © OpenStreetMap contributors. Open the larger map · Directions. Arrive before dark, park facing away from other observers, and use red light only.

Palos Preserves among the dark sky places of Illinois

Anderson Lake State Fish and Wildlife Area, Bortle 3 Apple River Canyon State Park, Bortle 3 Jim Edgar Panther Creek State Fish and Wildlife Area, Bortle 3 Middle Fork River Forest Preserve (International Dark Sky Park), Bortle 4 Sam Dale Lake State Fish and Wildlife Area, Bortle 3 Shawnee National Forest, Bortle 3 Siloam Springs State Park, Bortle 3 Weinberg-King State Fish and Wildlife Area, Bortle 3 Eagle Creek Park City park, Bortle 6 Indiana Dunes National Park, Bortle 4 Shades State Park, Bortle 4 Tippecanoe River State Park, Bortle 4 Turkey Run State Park, Bortle 4 Eden Valley County Park, Bortle 4 Lake Darling State Park, Bortle 3 Lake Sugema, Bortle 3 Lake Wapello State Park, Bortle 3 Moore-Gosch Memorial Park, Bortle 3 Palisades-Kepler State Park, Bortle 4 Rock Creek State Park, Bortle 4 Stephens State Forest, Bortle 3 Beckley Creek Park Urban park, Bortle 5 Blackacre State Nature Preserve, Bortle 6 Mammoth Cave National Park, Bortle 4 Dr. T.K. Lawless County Park, Bortle 4 Broemmelsiek Park County Park, Bortle 5 Current River State Park, Bortle 2 Mark Twain National Forest, Bortle 3 Sam Baker State Park, Bortle 2 Clark State Forest, Bortle 4 Ferdinand State Forest, Bortle 4 Hoosier National Forest, Bortle 4 Martin State Forest, Bortle 4 Ravinia State Forest, Bortle 4 Big River State Forest, Bortle 3 Green River State Forest, Bortle 4 Greene-Sullivan State Forest, Bortle 4 Harrison-Crawford State Forest, Bortle 4 Hidden Springs State Forest, Bortle 4 Jackson-Washington State Forest, Bortle 4 Lowden-Miller State Forest, Bortle 4 Morgan-Monroe State Forest, Bortle 4 Mountain Tea State Forest, Bortle 4 Owen-Putnam State Forest, Bortle 4 Pennyrile State Forest, Bortle 4 Pike State Forest, Bortle 4 Rolleigh Peterson State Forest, Bortle 5 Salamonie River State Forest, Bortle 4 Sand Ridge State Forest, Bortle 4 Selmier State Forest, Bortle 4 Trail of Tears State Forest, Bortle 4 Yellowwood State Forest, Bortle 4 Deam Lake State Recreation Area, Bortle 4 Starve Hollow State Recreation Area, Bortle 4 Stacy Park City Park, Bortle 7 Beverly Shores Dark Sky Community, Bortle 4 Hawthorn Woods Dark Sky Community, Bortle 6 Homer Glen Dark Sky Community, Bortle 7 Thousand Hills State Park Urban Night Sky Place, Bortle 4 Bootleg Fall Star Party (star party) Bootleg Spring Star Party (star party) Palos Preserves Illinois Palos Preserves Illinois
Bortle 1 Bortle 2 Bortle 3 Bortle 4 Bortle 5 or brighter Class not yet rated Star party

Each dot is a dark sky place, colored by Bortle class; select one for its page. Diamonds are star parties. See Illinois dark sky places for the full list, darkest first.

Camping and lodging at Palos Preserves

The nearest town with motels or inns is Orland Park, IL. Check the official site for campgrounds and overnight rules; many parks close their gates at night, so ask about after-dark access.

Dark sky places nearest Palos Preserves

PlaceWhereBortleDistance
Homer Glen Dark Sky CommunityIllinois711 km (7 mi)
Hawthorn Woods Dark Sky CommunityIllinois658 km (36 mi)
Indiana Dunes National ParkIndiana472 km (45 mi)
Beverly Shores Dark Sky CommunityIndiana475 km (46 mi)
Tippecanoe River State ParkIndiana4123 km (77 mi)
Lowden-Miller State ForestIllinois4127 km (79 mi)
Middle Fork River Forest Preserve (International Dark Sky Park)Illinois4148 km (92 mi)
Dr. T.K. Lawless County ParkMichigan4168 km (105 mi)

Star parties near Palos Preserves

Star partyNearDistanceUsual timing
Bootleg Fall Star PartyHarmon, Illinois137 km (85 mi)Autumn new moon
Bootleg Spring Star PartyHarmon, Illinois137 km (85 mi)Spring new moon
Great Lakes Star GazeGladwin, Michigan374 km (232 mi)September new moon
StarfestAyton, Ontario622 km (386 mi)August new moon

Planning a trip? Astrotourism in Illinois puts the dark sky places, observatories, clubs, star parties, planetariums and science centers of the state on one map, with the best night out worked out.

Observatories and astronomy clubs near Palos Preserves

Observatories within 100 km

Nearest astronomy clubs

See observatories and astronomy clubs in Illinois. Local clubs often hold their star parties at dark sky places like this one.

Palos Preserves record

Every value in the dark sky places dataset for Palos Preserves
Park899
NamePalos Preserves
TypeLongForest Preserve (Urban Night Sky Place)
IDSurban place
Bortle7
StatelongIllinois
StateIL
Webhttps://darksky.org/places/palos-preserves-urban-night-sky-place/
Lat41.70883
Lon-87.87668
LatLonSpotLittle Red Schoolhouse Nature Center, 9800 Willow Springs Rd
Elevation_m190
LandManagerForest Preserves of Cook County
StatusOpen
LodgingOrland Park, IL
Sourceshttps://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WM87Q9_Little_Red_Schoolhouse_Willow_Springs_IL ; https://darksky.org/places/palos-preserves-urban-night-sky-place/
SQM18.61
DarkSkyUrban Night Sky Place
DarkSkyYear2021

From the site's dark sky places dataset (parks_q426). The sky by season is computed from the coordinates.